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List Editor: Wendy Plotkin <wplotk1@uic.edu> Editor's Subject: Re: WWW: "The Mall" and "Swamp" Beginnings of D.C. Author's Subject: Re: WWW: "The Mall" and "Swamp" Beginnings of D.C. Date Written: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 01:34:12 -0500 Date Posted: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 01:34:12 -0500 1) Posted by Clay Mcshane <c.mcshane@neu.edu> Technically, Bob Arnebeck is correct. Its probably more correct to describe it as a tidal marsh, rather than a swamp. Readers can judge this for themselves. I suggest looking at the following: At the mall site: http://xroads.virginia.edu/%7ECAP/MALL/lenfant.jpg. http://xroads.virginia.edu/%7ECAP/MALL/downview.jpg At American Memory: http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/map_item.pl?data=/home/www/data/gmd/gmd385/g3851/g3851a/pm001090.sid&style=gmd&itemLink=D?gmd:13:./temp/~ammem_ZRLp:: @@mdb=eaa,aap,aaeo,rbaapcbib,aasm,ftvbib,aaodyssey,hh,gottscho,mharendt,bbpix,bbcards,magbell,lbcoll,rbpebib,calbkbib,tccc,lhbcbbib,cwband,gmd,cwar,cola,consrvbib,bdsbib,coolbib,coplandbib,curt,dag,musdibib,fsaall,papr,aep,papr,papr,fine,dcm,cmns,flwpabib,afcreed,cowellbib,toddbib,lomaxbib,ngp,raelbib,gottlieb,mtj,alad,gmd,wpa,mal,scsm,mcc,gmd,papr,gmd,aipn,papr,ncpm,ncpsbib,omhbib,gmd,pan,vv,wpapos,psbib,pin,presp,lhbprbib,qlt,gmd,ncr,relpet,gmd,papr,papr,dukesm,mussm,mesnbib,denn,amss,fpnas,papr,runyon,wtc,detr,hlaw,lhbumbib,varstg,horyd,mgw,hawp,nawbib,suffrg,papr,nfor&title=The+national+capital, Washington+City,+D.C.+ http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?pan:39:./temp/~ammem_ZRLp:: @@@mdb=eaa,aap,aaeo,rbaapcbib,aasm,ftvbib,aaodyssey,hh,gottscho,mharendt,bbpix,bbcards,magbell,lbcoll,rbpebib,calbkbib,tccc,lhbcbbib,cwband,gmd,cwar,cola,consrvbib,bdsbib,coolbib,coplandbib,curt,dag,musdibib,fsaall,papr,aep,papr,papr,fine,dcm,cmns,flwpabib,afcreed,cowellbib,toddbib,lomaxbib,ngp,raelbib,gottlieb,mtj,alad,gmd,wpa,mal,scsm,mcc,gmd,papr,gmd,aipn,papr,ncpm,ncpsbib,omhbib,gmd,pan,vv,wpapos,psbib,pin,presp,lhbprbib,qlt,gmd,ncr,relpet,gmd,papr,papr,dukesm,mussm,mesnbib,denn,amss,fpnas,papr,runyon,wtc,detr,hlaw,lhbumbib,varstg,horyd,mgw,hawp,nawbib,suffrg,papr,nfor http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/I?detr:48:./temp/~ammem_ZRLp::displayType=1:m856sd=det:m856sf=4a10394: @@mdb=eaa,aap,aaeo,rbaapcbib,aasm,ftvbib,aaodyssey,hh,gottscho,mharendt,bbpix,bbcards,magbell,lbcoll,rbpebib,calbkbib,tccc,lhbcbbib,cwband,gmd,cwar,cola,consrvbib,bdsbib,coolbib,coplandbib,curt,dag,musdibib,fsaall,papr,aep,papr,papr,fine,dcm,cmns,flwpabib,afcreed,cowellbib,toddbib,lomaxbib,ngp,raelbib,gottlieb,mtj,alad,gmd,wpa,mal,scsm,mcc,gmd,papr,gmd,aipn,papr,ncpm,ncpsbib,omhbib,gmd,pan,vv,wpapos,psbib,pin,presp,lhbprbib,qlt,gmd,ncr,relpet,gmd,papr,papr,dukesm,mussm,mesnbib,denn,amss,fpnas,papr,runyon,wtc,detr,hlaw,lhbumbib,varstg,horyd,mgw,hawp,nawbib,suffrg,papr,nfor http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/map_item.pl?data=/home/www/data/gmd/gmd385/g3851/g3851a/pm001066.sid&style=gmd&itemLink=D?gmd:5:./temp/~ammem_UYOl:: @@mdb=aaodyssey,gmd,gmd,gmd,gmd,gmd,gmd,gmd&title=Panoramic+view+of+Washington+City+ I'd be interested in hearing how other people read those images. In passing, I might note that my office in the South End and my home in the West End were once tidal marshes, as was most of Central Boston. Why is that a disservice? Clay McShane Professor Department of History Northeastern University 2) Posted by Carolyn Kolb <CGKOLB@uno.edu> Actually there is an American city founded in the 18th century which indeed had a swamp nearby and which the present city boundaries now enclose -- New Orleans. The city, founded circa 1718, sometimes gets left out of considerations of American 18th century cities (and there are lots of extant records, too), but in this case it has earned a spot! Carolyn Kolb University of New Orleans Matthew Gilmore H-DC list co-editor, web editor dc-edit@mail.h-net.msu.edu http://www2.h-net.msu.edu/~dclist/ [list website] http://www2.h-net.msu.edu/lists/subscribe.cgi?list=H-DC [subscribe to H-DC] Remember to check http://h-net.msu.edu/cgi-bin/logbrowse.pl?trx=lm&list=h-dc for past list messages.
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