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X-From: Rick Gates <LB05GATE@ucsbuxa.bitnet> Subject: December Hunt Results To: Multiple recipients of list NETTRAIN <NETTRAIN@ubvm.bitnet> ********************************************************** * * * December Internet Hunt * * * * RESULTS * * * * (Watch out! 617 lines in this message) * ********************************************************** The results are in. The winner is: Calvin Boyer Library University of California, Irvine Calvin scored a total of 41 points out of a maximum of 42 in an entry dated Tue, 01 Dec 92 19:52:40 -0800. One of the distinguishing features of Calvin's effort was his almost total reliance on a single gopher server. Here is his own words: >As an experiment to see how far I could go using only one of >the more robust gopher servers (University of California - >Santa Cruz InfoSlug), I limited my first round assistance to >INFOSLUG. The number of answers with the InfoSlug tag is most >illustrative. > >and it takes longer to type the answers than to find! Congratulations Calvin, on a job well done! STATISTICS ---------- The number of players was down this month, partly (I suspect), due to the usually frantic end-of-the-term activities occurring in academic centers around the world. Number of players: 11 Number of comments: 32 COMMENTS ABOUT THIS HUNT ------------------------ As our winner has already pointed out, the InfoSlug Gopher at UC Santa Cruz provides a good starting point for network searches. As expected Veronica is already becoming a vital tool. Roughly half of all gopher solutions sent by this month's players used Veronica. THE USUAL --------- If any player would like a copy of their individual results, please feel free to send me a message. ASIDE ----- In response to the proliferation of Network tools named after cartoon characters (Archie, Veronica), I propose that we come up with a new maxim for Cybernauts: "Just Use Gopher Heavily, Especially After Dark" Well, now for something completely different: GOPHER/ALIAS HINT (3 or 4 screens of info) ----------------- I thought that maybe people would be interested in a how I've been using aliases with the gopher command. I'm on a Unix system here, and I can can use the alias command to cut down on keystrokes. For instance when I type the letter 'm' and hit return, I get put into my emacs mailer. That's because I have the following line in my .login file: alias m emacs -f rmail In other words, 'm' becomes an alias (substitute, synonym) for the command 'emacs -f rmail'. This sort of facility is availble on other, non-Unix platforms as well. The way I use this feature with Gopher revolves around the fact that you can always find out what address and directory you are connected to with Gopher. For instance from the following menu on my local Gopher server: Other Gopher and Information Servers 1. Univ of Minnesota Gopher Server/ 2. Other Gopher and Information Servers/ 3. Apple Computer Higher Education Gopher Server/ 4. UCB Berkeley Gopher Server/ 5. University of California - Irvine/ --> 6. Veronica (search menu items in most of GopherSpace)/ ...if I press '=', I will get a screen that looks like this: Name=Veronica (search menu items in most of GopherSpace) Type=1 Port=70 Path=1/Veronica Host=futique.scs.unr.edu This gives us the name of the menu choice, the type (1 is a directory), the port, the directory path, and the address of the remote host. Here's how I can use this info. My Gopher client, and I suspect many others, allows for the specification of path, address and port on the command line. So if I type the following command: gopher -p 1/Veronica futique.scs.unr.edu 70 ...then after a short pause I will see the following screen Root gopher server: futique.scs.unr.edu --> 1. About Veronica. 2. Search many (300) Internet gopher menus by _SINGLE_ keyword <?> 3. About the reduced-redundancy search. 4. Proposals for Veronica Development. As I frequently do Veronica searches, it's useful for me to create an alias for this command. Thus a line in my .login file reads: alias ver "gopher -p 1/Veronica futique.scs.unr.edu 70" Now, rather than having to traverse a number of Gopher menus to get to the Veronica search screen, I simply type 'ver' and I am there! This can be a real time saver for any set of Gopher resources that you need to visit regularly. For instance, rather than having to choose: Other gophers North America U.S.A page down several times Choose UC Santa Cruz InfoSlug system I simply type 'slug' from my system prompt, and I am there because of the following line in my .login file: alias slug "gopher scilibx.ucsc.edu 70" How did I get the information for my gopher command? I simply pressed '=' from the following menu: USA 109. Texas A&M/ 110. UCCSN System Computing Services Gopher (Las Vegas, Nevada)/ 111. University Corporation for Atmospheric Research (UCAR)/ 112. University System of Georgia Information Service/ 113. University of California - Berkeley, Open Computing Facility/ 114. University of California - Berkeley, Workstation Support Services/ 115. University of California - Irvine/ 116. University of California - Irvine, Information & Computer Science/ 117. University of California - San Francisco, UCSFYI Experimental Gop/ 118. University of California - Santa Barbara/ --> 119. University of California - Santa Cruz, InfoSlug System/ 120. University of Chicago (under construction)/ 121. University of Colorado, Boulder/ 122. University of Delaware gopher server/ 123. University of Florida (experimental)/ 124. University of Georgia (test gopher)/ 125. University of Houston Protein Information Resource gopher/ 126. University of Houston, Texas/ Press ? for Help, q to Quit, u to go up a menu Page: 7/10 ...and got this information: Name=University of California - Santa Cruz, InfoSlug System Type=1 Port=70 Path= Host=scilibx.ucsc.edu (Note that there is no path needed here, or in my .login alias.) I hope that this information proves useful. I'm fairly certain that much of it is available on other platforms as well. To those anxious for the Hunt answers, I will now release you from captivity. Hopefully before long, I will find a Gopher/FTP site for the Hunt, and I'll be able to place information of this sort in a hints or tips file there. Without further delay... THE HUNT ANSWERS ---------------- 1. (3) What is the atomic weight of boron? (Question contributed by Jim Olivetti.) Winner's Answer --------------- U of C - Santa Cruz InfoSlug System <select> The Library/ <select> Electronic Reference Books/ <select> Periodic Table of Elements/ <select> Boron answer: 10.811 Other Answers ------------- gopher at University of Minnesota All the Gophers in the World/ University of Colorado, Boulder/ Online Library Catalogues, Electronic Books and Reference Databases/ Reference Works/ Periodic Table of Elements/ boron The atomic weight of boron is 10.811. 2. (6) Seems like a funny question to ask from so far away, but I'm trying to find a new book on the Internet by an author named Krol. Are there any local bookstores that might carry this? I live in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Winner's Answer --------------- <telnet> Gopher.Ora.Com <log in> Gopher <select> Ordering Information/ <select> List of Bookstores Carrying O'Reilly Books/ <select> New Mexico answer: Page One; Holman's 3. (4) Early last month, U.S. president-elect Bill Clinton proposed a new technology policy. Where can I find the text of this proposed policy? Winner's Answer --------------- University of California - Santa Cruz InfoSlug System <select> The World/ <select> US Presidential Campaign '92 Documents/ <select> Search Democratic Files <?> "technology" <select> /Democratic/Statements/tech-policy. answer: document is available for reading from screen, for mailing, for saving as a file, or for printing. Other Answers ------------- EFFector Online November 4, 1992 Issue 3.08 A Publication of the Ele Frontier Foundation ISSN 1062-9424 A TECHNOLOGY POLICY FOR AMERICA Six Broad Initiatives by Bill Clinton (September, 1992) ----- telnet to quake.think.com (WAIS) select [sunsite.unc.edu] clinton-speechess (sic!) search for "technology policy" (found 40 items) select "TECHNOLOGY: Position Paper - 9/16/92" (score 1000) 4. (5) I'm going to be in Denver, Colorado on the nights of Jan 22-25. Will the Denver Nuggets basketball team be playing at home on any of those nights? (Idea for question contributed by Nancy Pope, LSU Library.) Winner's Answer --------------- University of California - Santa Cruz InfoSlug System <select> The Community/ <select> Professional Sports Schedules/ <select> National Basketball Association Schedule (92 - 93) Season <TEL> once connected <type> denver 1/22 1/23 1/24 1/25 answer: Saturday, 1/23 Cleveland at Denver (7:00 pm) Monday, 1/25 Minnesota at Denver (7:00 pm) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gleason Sackman BBS: email@example.com Coordinator Internet: firstname.lastname@example.org SENDIT - NoDak's K-12 Telcom Network Bitnet: email@example.com BOX 5164, NDSU Computer Center Voice: (701)237-8109 Fargo, ND 58105 Fax: (701)237-8541