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At the University level, Tom Vickery and Cyndy Krey have focused the nature of the need. I need to know the witing level of the incoming freshmen (10th grade, 12th grade, ??) to insure proper placement or need for remediation and I have to check students as they progress through the curriculum to insure that their writing is improving. Before graduation, perhaps their witing should be "too erudite". Perhaps those with experience with "Writing Analysis Programs" could also mention if the program evaluates "grade levels" and if so, what are the minimum and maximum levels. Charles Sundin, University of Wisconsin-Platteville firstname.lastname@example.org