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Lee, Your "few stray, lurking thoughts" are what's really important. We want to bring the whole of Information Technology to every student. It costs money. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, talks like a duck, but has a sign on it "chicken", it might not be killed during duck hunting season. That is, a computer fee goes for computers. A tuition hike goes for ????? It gets lost and you have to continue to fight for it. I think that is why some feel that the fee route is better. It also tells the students what the money is to be used for. Charles Sundin, University of Wisconsin-Platteville firstname.lastname@example.org