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1st Reply From: ROGER CHAPMAN <ROGER_CHAPMAN@pba.edu> Subject: RE: QUERY: Churchill's Drinking Habits Date: March 1, 2010 10:57:09 AM EST To: H-NET Military History Discussion List <H-WAR@H-NET.MSU.EDU> In the autobiography, _My Early Life_, specifically chapter X ("The Malakand Field Force"), Winston Churchill shares how he came to "overcome my repugnance to the taste of whisky." Therein, he devotes two pages to his drinking preferences and philosophies. Roger Chapman, Ph.D. Assistant Professor of History School of Arts and Sciences Palm Beach Atlantic University 901 S. Flagler Drive Borbe Hall 219 P.O. Box 24708 West Palm Beach, FL 33416-4708 Phone: 561-803-2289 2nd Reply From: LARRY GRANT <email@example.com> Subject: RE: Churchill's Drinking Habits Date: March 1, 2010 11:09:17 AM EST To: H-NET Military History Discussion List <H-WAR@H-NET.MSU.EDU> I am tempted to paraphrase Lincoln: "So Churchill gets drunk, does he? . . . Well, you needn't waste your time getting proof; you just find out, to oblige me, what brand of whiskey Churchill drinks, because I want to send a barrel of it to each one of my politicians." Larry A. GRANT Naval historian, j.g. 3rd Reply From: Walter Boyne <firstname.lastname@example.org> Subject: RE: QUERY: Churchill's Drinking Habits Date: March 1, 2010 11:33:41 AM EST To: H-NET Military History Discussion List <H-WAR@H-NET.MSU.EDU> I believe Pol Roger was his preferred champagne. Walter Boyne P.S. Whatever he was drinking, we should send cases to everyone in government. Walter J. Boyne 20582 Rosewood Manor Square Ashburn, VA 20147 703 729 8687 703 475 8985 cell www.air-boyne.com 4th Reply From: Sidney Allinson <email@example.com> Subject: Re: QUERY: Churchill's Drinking Habits Date: March 1, 2010 11:44:25 AM EST To: H-NET Military History Discussion List <H-WAR@H-NET.MSU.EDU> Martin Gilbert looked into the facts of Mr. Churchill's drinking habits. According to several close associates and co-workers of WSC, he was a quite moderate drinker. Several remarked that usually he would just sip at water-diluted weak whiskey. If Irving said Churchill was an alcoholic, well -- consider the source. Irving's the same guy who grossly exaggerated the number of Germans killed during the Dresden bombing raids. Wildly four times more than the actual 27,000 dead officially reported by the Dresden chief of police at the time; the same figure confirmed by the historical symposium inquiry sponsored by the mayor of Dresden three years ago. As for what historians think of Churchill, all the latter-day revisionism in the world can never override the fact he provided leadership that profoundly helped win WWII for the Allies. -- Sidney Allinson. 5th Reply From: Bill & Kathleen Mero <firstname.lastname@example.org> Subject: Re: QUERY: Churchill's Drinking Habits Date: March 1, 2010 2:10:26 PM EST To: H-NET Military History Discussion List <H-WAR@H-NET.MSU.EDU> Perhaps regarding Churchill's drinking habits we should look to Abraham Lincoln when he encountered this complaint abut General Grant: "Tell me what brand of whiskey that Grant drinks. I would like to send a barrel of it to my other generals." Abraham Lincoln Today the world may not need more Generals but we could surely use a statesman like Churchill, no matter what he drinks. K J Mero John Marsh Historic Trust 6th Reply From: Adrien Ivan <email@example.com> Subject: Re: QUERY: Churchill's Drinking Habits Date: March 1, 2010 2:44:31 PM EST To: H-NET Military History Discussion List <H-WAR@H-NET.MSU.EDU> Check out Rick Atkinson's Day of Battle. He has a small section on Churchill and what he drank. According to Atkinson, one of his favorites was Johnny Walker Red. 7th Reply From: Matt Clark <firstname.lastname@example.org> Subject: Re: REPLY: Churchill's Drinking Habits Date: March 1, 2010 7:45:05 PM EST To: H-NET Military History Discussion List <H-WAR@H-NET.MSU.EDU> Palle Rasmussen wrote: It is important to not judge the past (too much) by today's standards, but by its own. Everybody back then drank heavily. I heard that Mr Churchill drank gin, but no matter what he was a great statesman. I agree completely. I was simply observing that views toward what constitutes alcoholism have changed considerably since the 1940s. Drinking, of spirits particularly, was much more prevalent then than it is now. And I agree, of course, that Churchill was a great leader who, as John Kuehn pointed out, seemed to keep his alcohol consumption well under control. Matt Clark -----Original Message----- From: H-NET Military History Discussion List [mailto:H-WAR@H-NET.MSU.EDU] On Behalf Of H-War Editor David Silbey Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 10:40 AM To: H-WAR@H-NET.MSU.EDU Subject: QUERY: Churchill's Drinking Habits From: "Matt Clark" <email@example.com> Date: Monday, March 1, 2010 10:36:42 AM Subject: COMMENT Bravo Exactly what were Churchill's drinking habits? Irving said he was an alcoholic, and others have said the same. Many references seem to occur about his use of alcoho. I recall one member of anot her list saying he hated Champagne, but drank cognac exclusively (which I don't buy). I've looked into the indices of several biographies and find no reference to "Churlchill--drunking habits of..." On the other hand, the late military editor of the NY Times maintained that the prime minister tossed off a highball on arising and knocked off a bottle bubbly at lunch. And at night, brandy was his drink. According to today's medical standards, anyone who takes a drink daily is a candidate for Betty Ford's institution. So what do historians think about Churchill? Matt Clark ----- For subscription help, go to: http://www.h-net.org/lists/help/ To change your subscription settings, go to http://h-net.msu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=h-war -----