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From: firstname.lastname@example.org Subject: REPLY: Most "Law Abiding Adversary" Date: March 3, 2010 7:39:17 PM EST To: H-NET Military History Discussion List <H-WAR@H-NET.MSU.EDU> Reply-To: email@example.com All "adversaries" in the list have tended at various times act outside what many would considered "civilised behavior" and/or "the laws of war". Imperial Germany introduced chemical warfare and for America, its entry into WWI was prompted by the sinking of the Lusitania with the loss of a large number of civilian lives. The Italians, usually considered ineffectual by many after the war for some reason, didn't hesitate before it to utilise chemical warfare in Ethopia. The Nazis massacred American soldiers during the Ardennes offensive. Individuals and groups (units) act abominably in all conflicts while at the same time other individuals and groups (units) act honourably. I suspect determining who was the "most honourable" is very much a subjective thing. Of the order of the list though, I am somewhat surprised to see the Chinese or Koreans listed below the Iraqi insurgents and Taliban. As far as I am aware, the Communist Chinese and/or Koreans did not routinely cut their prisoners' heads off. I'm also surprised not to see the Japanese listed, even at the lower end of the scale. Does this mean that the Pacific war didn't happen and the mistreatment of all Allied forces at the hands of the Imperial forces didn't occur? cheers Brian Ross Independent Scholar of Life. ________________________________________ Original Message: From: Frode Lindgjerdet Date: March 1, 2010 6:45:29 PM EST To: Subject: Most "Law Abiding Adversary" Dear Collegues: The Weapons--Napalm/Flamethrowers reminded me of a question that has puzzled me for some time. In recent conflicts, it has struck me that Western forces face adversaries that systematically breech every written and unwritten code of war. At the same time the media and international opinion demand an almost devine ability on behalf of the individual Western soldier to heed every convention to the letter, to hit every target without any collateral damage - with no room for error. And any testemony from the most ruthless dictatorship, insurgent or terrorist are taken at face value without any critical appraisal of their credibility from journalists. From the horror stories of Gitmo to the infamous babymilk factory of Bagdad. Then I must ask my self, what adversary of the United States in a major war over the last century have been the most law abiding adversary? That is, towards towards US forces. I would guess the following : 1. Imperial Germany 1917-1918 2. Italy 1941-1943 3. Nazi Germany 1941-1945 4. North Vietnam 1964-1973 5. Iraq 1991; 2003 6. Iraqi Insurgents/Taliban 2001- 7. North Korea/Communist China 1950-1953 Frode Lindgjerdet, Archivist, Norwegian Home Guard, Freelance Historian ----- For subscription help, go to: http://www.h-net.org/lists/help/ To change your subscription settings, go to http://h-net.msu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=h-war -----