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1. "Kuehn, John Dr CIV USA TRADOC" <firstname.lastname@example.org> 2. "Kuehn, John Dr CIV USA TRADOC" <email@example.com> 3. rhbrown <firstname.lastname@example.org> 4. Mac McIntosh <email@example.com> -----Message from: "Kuehn, John Dr CIV USA TRADOC" <firstname.lastname@example.org>----- Could August Storm (the Soviet attack on Manchuria), starvation, and other operations have whittled down almost a million men (if one includes the Navy numbers as a subcomponent) by September 1945? Did his numbers include Indochina? I have bcc'd Ed Drea, to try and learn his thoughts. John T. Kuehn, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Military History Curriculum Developer Department of Military History U.S. Army Command and General Staff College Fort Leavenworth, KS "Kuehn, John Dr CIV USA TRADOC" <email@example.com> -----Message from: "Kuehn, John Dr CIV USA TRADOC" <firstname.lastname@example.org>----- Dennis Giangreco's _Hell to Pay: Operation DOWNFALL and the invasion of Japan, 1945-1947_ from Naval Institute Press (2009) has much to offer on these matters, providing much new data on the numbers in Kyushu, shipping movements in preparation for Olympic and Cornet, additional atomic weapons movements, casualty projections, and so much more... He obliterates the Alperovitz 'nuclear diplomacy" thesis (if it needed to be obliterated, since many others have already done so) and in the process also undoes much of the speculation that the USSR and the US were in a "race" proposed by Tsutoshi Hasegawa in _Racing with the Enemy_ (if the archival data that supports his argument is to be believed). R, John John T. Kuehn, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Military History Curriculum Developer Department of Military History U.S. Army Command and General Staff College Fort Leavenworth, KS "Kuehn, John Dr CIV USA TRADOC" <email@example.com> -----Message from: rhbrown <firstname.lastname@example.org>----- Regarding John Kuehn's statement that Edward Drea "puts 5.2 million in China in the spring of 1945", I wrote: "My copies of the books by Edward Drea and Ronald Specter, as well as other sources, are in my office,..." I made it to the office today and looked at Drea's book; on page 250 he writes that Japan's "5.2 million-man army" still controlled a large amount of China, which I think may be a reference to the overall strength of the army, rather than to the number of soldiers deployed to China. On page 261 he repeats the standard figure of 6.6 million Japanese overseas at the end of the war, stating that "over half" of these were soldiers and sailors (I'm going on memory here, but I believe his endnote includes the Takemae Eiji book I cited in earlier, which gives the standard, roughly 50-50 breakdown between soldiers and civilians). Meanwhile, I also checked a new book by Lori Watt on repatriation, in which she writes that "as of August 1945, 3.2 million Japanese civilians and 3.7 million soldiers--6.9 million people, nearly 9 percent of the total population of 72 million--were outside of the Japanese home islands." (_When Empire Comes Home: Repatriation and Reintegration in Postwar Japan_ Cambridge, Mass: Harvard University Press, 2009, p. 2). Her source is Ara Takashi, ed., _Nihon senryo, gaiko kankei shiryoshu [Documents on the occupation and foreign relations of Japan], Vol. 3. Tokyo: Kashiwa shobo, 1991, p. 304. In any case, since I checked, I thought I would pass the information along. Cheers, Roger Brown, Ph.D. Professor of History (Modern Japan & US-Japan Relations) Saitama University email: email@example.com rhbrown <firstname.lastname@example.org> -----Message from: Mac McIntosh <email@example.com>----- In 1995 , Dr. John A. Harrison wrote a letter to the editor of the American Intelligence Journal which he titled : A Personal Statement Concerning the Atomic Bomb. Doctor Harrison was at that time the retired Dean of the Graduate School , University of Miami. He was a Japanese language officer in the U.S, Navy 1941-1946 . I don't know if his letter to the editor is available on-line or not . He notes that "When the moment of surrender came, there were undefeated Japanese armies in Indonesia (500,000) Indochina (200,000),Philippines (500,000) and Korea, Manchuria and China and Taiwan (2,000,000) . Dr. Harrison also personally inspected the proposed landing sites at Ariake Bay and Kagoshima Bay in September 1945 . When he spoke with officers of the 16th Area Army responsible for the defense of Kyushu they said they had 14 Divisions and 5 brigades in position . His letter was on page 3 of the Autumn/Winter 1995 issue of American Intelligence Journal . Mac McIntosh <firstname.lastname@example.org> ----- For subscription help, go to: http://www.h-net.org/lists/help/ To change your subscription settings, go to http://h-net.msu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=h-war -----