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Wyatt Reader writes: "Is there any confirming documentation?" John Kuehn writes: "Drea puts 5.2 million in China in the spring of 1945. Drea and Spector really are the best there is in English on this topic." My copies of the books by Edward Drea and Ronald Specter, as well as other sources, are in my office, however, poking around on my bookshelf here at home, I found the following numbers for Japanese overseas at the end of the war in _Showa 20-nen/1945-nen: Saishin shiryo o moto ni tettei kensho suru [Showa 20/1945: A Thorough Investigation Based on the Newest Sources]_, Fujiwara Akira, Awaya Kentaro & Yoshida Yutaka, eds., Tokyo: Shogakukan, 1995, p. 314, citing records of the old Ministry of Health and Welfare: Army: 3,085,000 Navy: 449,000 Civilians: 3,066,000 Total: 6,600,000 Obviously numbers this "pretty" can't be entirely accurate, but they should be in the ballpark. Books on the occupation by Takemae Eiji and by John Dower give similar overall numbers and break-downs between soldiers and civilians. I think Spector's numbers are roughly the same for the total, but don't recall if he breaks it down between military and civilian (of course he is on the list and, if he so desires, can weigh in on this). I vaguely remember reading Drea's number of 5.2 million Japanese in China, but don't recall if he was referring only to soldiers or if he breaks it down. I hasten to add that I don't research this topic and thus make no pretension to being the resident expert on the subject. I was just responding to Wyatt Reader's statement that "it is reported the Japanese had as many as 7 million troops ahores in Asia and China," which is at variance with what I know (or at least what think I know). Cheers, Roger Brown, Ph.D. Professor of History (Modern Japan & US-Japan Relations) Saitama University email: email@example.com rhbrown <firstname.lastname@example.org> ----- For subscription help, go to: http://www.h-net.org/lists/help/ To change your subscription settings, go to http://h-net.msu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=h-war -----