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I have not read the Neely's book, though I will search it out after reading Prof. Citino's review. I gather that it's about the brutality of war (only American war?), but think that Prof. Citino may be conflating two issues in his comments that are and should remain separate -- the brutality of a war and the lasting impact of the same war. I cannot say with certainty that that was the intention, but his use of his students' comments as counterpoint makes it seems so. Counting bodies is a peculiar, and ineffective, way of measuring the importance of a war. (Reminds one of the body counts of Vietnam, which were condemned by many for various reasons, not the least of which is their use as a measure of effectiveness in achievement of a strategic goal.) Wars are not fought to produce casualties anymore than a farmer plowing a field has as his "goal" the destruction of weeds. (And, yes, I remember Verdun, etc, but battles aren't wars.) Presumably, the farmer is trying to raise a crop; killing weeds is a byproduct, arguably necessary at some times not at others. Perhaps in their ignorance, Prof Citino's students believe that historical outcomes correlate more accurately with the importance of any given war than the number of people killed. Take the two battles mentioned. Gettysburg, accurately or not, is called the high point of the war. Accepting that assertion means that it sealed the fate of the South; it also affirmed the preservation of the Union and ensured that there would be on the North American continent one, not two, significant states. It allowed that single power to turn its energies to opening the continent rather than to maintaining armies and guarding frontiers. The industries that grew in the last decades of the 19th century allowed the United States to fund and supply the English and French in their fight against the German state that was founded with the victory at Königgrätz. Both were momentous--not for the dead produced but for the collision they brought about twice in the 20th century. Which was more important? In terms of producing civil war dead, I'm going to guess without looking that the Russian and Chinese civil wars were worse. They had the advantage of more modern killing tools and an ideology that openly accepted killing as a tool in stamping out competing ideas and in transforming society. The American Civil War may have been small potatoes when all the dead are stacked like cordwood, but as the students ask, so what? Except as a narrow study of weapon effectiveness or technological change or similar, what has the number of dead to do with lasting importance? Or am I missing the point, too? Can I appeal to the 300 at Thermopylae? Larry A. Grant Naval Historian, j.g. Larry A. Grant <grant.198@osu.edu> ----- For subscription help, go to: http://www.h-net.org/lists/help/ To change your subscription settings, go to http://h-net.msu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=h-war -----
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