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Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 10:47:02 -0700 From: Matthew Mason <email@example.com> I think Caleb McDaniel's post offers many worthwhile observations, in particular the ones about the disjunction between many Garrisonians' protestations about the evils of politics and their practical ambivalence about the politics of slavery. But I want to clarify one thing about my original post lo these many days ago. It would indeed be strange to say that Garrison was ineffective in politics, just as strange as saying that Gandhi was a bad military leader. My point was and is to question the Garrisonians' effectiveness IN ANTISLAVERY, their core mission, given that it was political strife - extended to military strife - that abolished slavery. Matt Mason Brigham Young University