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Regarding "poslednaia vremena": could it be Metropolitan Illarion? The theme of the last hour is quite prominent in his sermon. It may also be a good idea to check Floria’s book Skazaniia o nachale slavianskoi pismennosti. Alternatively, Klykov could have easily “improved” the quote from PVL with a little help from somebody who knows Church Slavonic. Best, Sergei -----Original Message----- From: Early Slavic Studies [mailto:H-EARLYSLAVIC@H-NET.MSU.EDU] On Behalf Of Sergei Bogatyrev Sent: 06 November 2009 08:55 To: H-EARLYSLAVIC@H-NET.MSU.EDU Subject: query about inscription From: goldfrad@georgetown.edu [mailto:goldfrad@georgetown.edu] Sent: 06 November 2009 01:41 To: Early Slavic Studies Subject: Re: query about inscription The Letopis' po Ipatevskomu spisku (Riazan 2001 ed.) has on p16, under 898 (leto 6406) --Vy zhe, chada Bozhiia, poslushaite uchneiia i ne otrinete nakazanie tserkovnago, iakozhe by nakazal" Mefedii uchitel' vash'. The same words, with slightly different spelling, are in the Riazan 2001 edition of Letopis' po spisku Lavrentiia (p. 27), and also in the Nikon Chronicle (PSRL 9, 1965 ed., p97). (I do not think that this passage is in either Russkii khronograf or Stepennaia kniga.) So Prof. Steindorff is correct for the likely original inspiration in PVL for the first part The second part -- iezhe v" poslednaia vremena predano byst' vashego radi spaseniia -- sounds to me quite Apostlic (i.e., Eph 1:13, "gospel of your salvation" -- and "given for your/our salvation" is standard homiletic -- that's the best I can do. cheers to all .. d goldfrank reply to: From: Brian Bennett [mailto:bbennett@niagara.edu] Sent: 05 November 2009 18:00 To: Early Slavic Studies Subject: RE: query about inscription Thank you for your quick response regarding the inscription. I checked Yandex as well. Perhaps I'm missing something (not for the first time)... I realize there is a similar line in the PVL under the year 898. But I cannot find the _ exact_ wording of the inscription in print or online versions. And yet I would be surprised if the sculptor Klykov invented the variant on his own. If you don't mind, please forward the relevant link (off-list: to avoid further public demonstration of my incompetence). Thanks, Brian Dr. Brian Bennett Chair and Associate Professor Department of Religious Studies Niagara University Lewiston, NY 14109 716.286.8454 http://www.niagara.edu/rs/bennett.htm ________________________________________ From: Early Slavic Studies [H-EARLYSLAVIC@H-NET.MSU.EDU] On Behalf Of Sergei Bogatyrev [s.bogatyrev@SSEES.UCL.AC.UK] Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:12 PM To: H-EARLYSLAVIC@H-NET.MSU.EDU Subject: query about inscription From: Prof. Dr. Ludwig Steindorff [mailto:lsteindorff@oeg.uni-kiel.de] Sent: 05 November 2009 16:46 To: Early Slavic Studies Subject: Re: query about inscription Dear all, the quotation is from the Povest' vremennykh let under the year 898. Thanks to www.yandex.ru! Best wishes, Ludwig Steindorff Prof. Dr. Ludwig Steindorff Christian-Albrechts-Universität zu Kiel Osteuropäische Geschichte Historisches Seminar D-24098 Kiel Tel. +49/431/880-2174, FAX -5253 www.oeg.uni-kiel.de Sergei Bogatyrev schrieb: > From: Brian Bennett [mailto:bbennett@niagara.edu] > Sent: 05 November 2009 10:52 > To: H-EARLYSLAVIC@H-NET.MSU.EDU > Subject: query about inscription > > > When I was in Moscow recently I visited the monument to Cyril and Methodius. > One of the inscriptions on the pedestal reads: Vy zhe chada v"zliublenaia > poslushaite ucheniia bozhiia iezhe v" poslednaia vremena predano byst' > vashego radi spaseniia > > I thought this was a line from the Life of Methodius or the PVL version > thereof -- but it's not an exact match. > > I have not found an explanation in the reportage about the monument. > > Where is this variant from? > > Thanks in advance, > > Brian > > > Dr. Brian Bennett > Chair and Associate Professor > Department of Religious Studies > Niagara University > Lewiston, NY 14109 > 716.286.8454 > http://www.niagara.edu/rs/bennett.htm > >
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