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I believe that one million estimate is a common one. I can't help noting, however, that Dr. Zimmerman made the same mistake I referred to, that is, automatically assuming that I meant Americans had killed one million civilians. I didn't say that. I am saying that they died because the United States decided to fight that war, and thereby made it much, much longer, and much, more destructive, than it otherwise would have been, without changing the outcome. David Kaiser >From: firstname.lastname@example.org > >I am not that familiar with Vietnam, so perhaps Professor Kaiser can >cite some primary source for the 1 million civilians killed by American >troops. Also, how many were killed by the Vietcong and North Vietnamese? > >John C. Zimmerman University of Nevada Las Vegas