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David Kaiser's simplification that America's waging of war in Vietnam caused great human harm reflects historical reality. His assertion that the result would have been the same with not as much human harm done had the U.S. not fought in Vietnam is conjecture. From: "Kaiser, David, Prof." <firstname.lastname@example.org> I believe that one million estimate is a common one. I can't help noting, however, that Dr. Zimmerman made the same mistake I referred to, that is, automatically assuming that I meant Americans had killed one million civilians. I didn't say that. I am saying that they died because the United States decided to fight that war, and thereby made it much, much longer, and much, more destructive, than it otherwise would have been, without changing the outcome.