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Larry, Over the years I have left more than one monument to my stupidity online, and I really do live up to my signature line more than I would like to admit. I did know there were inappropriate images on Wikipedia, but not to the extent to which you have described. I am VERY glad you cleared up that misconception and I stand corrected. That does bring a question to mind that those who run filters out there might be able to answer. Since Wikipedia does have a large collection of inappropriate images, it would seem that any filter worth its price would protect against access to at least a larger number of these images, either by blocking the entire site, or by using some algorithm to detect and block the images. In other words, every filtering company out there must have Wikipedia flagged as having sexual images. What say you filter admins? Art > From: Larry Sanger <email@example.com> > > I'm not going to get into this, because I am on the record in many places > discussing the merits and demerits of Wikipedia. But I couldn't let the > following pass. > >> From: Art Wolinsky <firstname.lastname@example.org> >> ... >> Wikipedia also has a large amount of text based encyclopedic >> information >> about sex and it's understandable that community standards might come >> into >> play in blocking the site, but no way is access to Wikipedia going to >> be a >> CIPA violation. CIPA only requires technology be used to protection >> against >> pornographic images. What's interesting is that CIPA does not require >> technology implementation to block pornographic text. > > Maybe you aren't aware that Wikipedia has amazing numbers (tens of > thousands) of images of nudity and of sex acts, including a lot of what > could be described legally as obscene. <snip> Art Wolinsky OEO 3DWriting.com Technology Director - Online Internet Institute Educational Technology Director - WiredSafety.org email@example.com (609) 618-4433 I am perfectly capable of learning from my mistakes. I will surely learn a great deal today. --- Edtech Archives, posting guidelines and other information are at: http://www.h-net.msu.edu/~edweb Please include your name, email address, and school or professional affiliation in each posting. To unsubscribe send the following command to: LISTSERV@H-NET.MSU.EDU SIGNOFF EDTECH